Estate and trust

  • 1.  CRA Authorization for Deceased Individual

    Posted 4 days ago

    Hi Everyone,

    I'm reaching out to see if anyone has encountered challenges when trying to obtain CRA authorization for a deceased individual.

    I recently attempted to use the new online method via CRA Represent a Client ("RAC") to gain authorization for a client's estate. Despite submitting the will and death certificate through RAC about five weeks ago, the system is rejecting the legal representative's information as invalid.

    I've heard from other professionals that CRA may no longer process legal representative updates unless the documentation is submitted directly by the legal representative themselves. In our case, the legal representative is 93 years old, which makes this requirement quite impractical.

    Has anyone been able to confirm this change in CRA's process? Or seen any official communication from CRA outlining this policy? Any insights or advice would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks in advance!



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    Ergi Thodhori, CPA
    Senior Analyst, National Tax
    Doane Grant Thornton LLP.
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  • 2.  RE: CRA Authorization for Deceased Individual

    Posted 4 days ago

    I am not aware of CRA changing the process for updating the legal representative information - and they have not communicated any change to my knowledge. I have, however, heard from colleagues that lately CRA is taking a long time to process the documents. 



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    Maureen Vance
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  • 3.  RE: CRA Authorization for Deceased Individual

    Posted 3 days ago

    I work with many estate files and have never been as frustrated as since the implementation of the new authorization system, coinciding with the understaffing issue at CRA. My current three Estates for deceased individuals have been an absolute nightmare. Legal Representatives used to be registered within about a week but that is no longer the case. My clients have had to call CRA several times. Sometimes only to find out the information needs to be resubmitted, others are just told the standard answer of .. it takes 28 days to process. I am finding it taking longer.

    Beyond that, many of the people that are executors for the estates are not very tech savvy and walking them through approving my authorized representation is also a constant frustration. For many of them, they do not even have a "my account" so walking them through represent a client and then the approval process is a nightmare. We do have the option to have a signature uploaded but that only works with one of those circumstances.

    I'm finding the added stress for executors is a huge downside to these new processes, as is the delay in work done on our end as we wait for legal representatives to be registered, and then our authorization to be requested and approved and then processed. 



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    Candy Davis
    Davis Accounting & Tax Professional Corporati
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  • 4.  RE: CRA Authorization for Deceased Individual

    Posted 2 days ago

    Hi Candy,

     

    I agree with you the new CRA process is very time consuming and difficult.  The first step is to advise CRA who are the liquidators and submit all required information.

    Then, the liquidators will be able to link their account to the estate one.  I am a liquidator and a CPA and I had to call CRA to link the account.

     

    Hope this helps you,

     

    Sylvie P.






  • 5.  RE: CRA Authorization for Deceased Individual

    Posted 3 days ago

    I called CRA about this issue and was informed the executor was required to send in the documentation. They informed me the executor was required to have a REPID. 

    I have later heard from other accountants that CRA processed the information when they sent the documents directly to CRA. 

    It would be good to have some clarification   So far I am still waiting using both methods and have not yet been successful in obtaining authorization since the change. 



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    Kathleen Logan
    Logan Accounting
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  • 6.  RE: CRA Authorization for Deceased Individual

    Posted 3 days ago

    I think that it may have been a misunderstanding on the part of the CRA agent. If the legal representative wants online access to information (either for My Account, or My Trust Account), or if they want to authorize a representative online, then they need to get a RepID in order to access the deceased person's tax info. But any rep can use Submit Documents in Represent a Client to upload the will/death certificate so that CRA can update their records. 



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    Maureen Vance
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  • 7.  RE: CRA Authorization for Deceased Individual

    Posted 3 days ago

    I have tried the new process, one deceased person I was successful, two others I get an error "The information provided does not match our records, (T901)"  I did upload will and death certificate about a 10 days ago.  Was thinking I would call CRA for guidance, will let you know the results of the call.



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    William George Wray
    Harvest Gold Financial
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  • 8.  RE: CRA Authorization for Deceased Individual

    Posted 3 days ago

    It sounds like CRA is taking longer than 10 days at present to update their records - and until their records are updated, you won't be able to submit the request to be authorized as a representative. 



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    Maureen Vance
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  • 9.  RE: CRA Authorization for Deceased Individual

    Posted 3 days ago

    It seems like CRA has to be especially careful with deceased taxpayers to ensure they have the right person approving access. We have all seen estates degenerate into open warfare between the beneficiaries, often with multiple beneficiaries who think they should be calling the shots for the Estate.  CRA can't reasonably risk providing access and accepting filings from someone lacking legal authority to administer the estate.

    The hassle that we and the Executor face in getting online access, has to be compared to discovering that an inappropriate party has gained online access, leaving the legitimate Executor to deal with the fallout from incorrect filings or worse.



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    Hugh Neilson
    Kingston Ross Pasnak LLP
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  • 10.  RE: CRA Authorization for Deceased Individual

    Posted 3 days ago

    Similar issues as what you and others have commented with. The new authorization process has really wreaked havoc in getting authorization for deceased individuals, even to go through the Rep a Client route. One of our admins even sat down with an executor to help them navigate their Rep a Client, and both of them got errors - possibly CRA's records hadn't been updated yet, which is why both got stonewalled. Regardless, I think an alternative process (or at least a better way to track the progression of it) is due before we get into the thick of tax season. 



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    Cara Noble
    Yates Whitaker LLP, Chartered Professional Accountants
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